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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Van wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just need about $2500 first.</p></blockquote></div><p>The lament of many a photographer!&nbsp; HA!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kaptainkory]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-06-10T22:03:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: VA salamanders and some useless junk]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kory, thats why I decided to slowly rebuild my collection post-Panama with fast prime lenses.&nbsp; The 50mm f/1.4 is just astonishing when it is wide open- it is becoming a close second-favorite to my 105 macro.&nbsp; I used to have the 1.8, which was a great lens for the money (got it for $90 brand new), but it doesn&#039;t even come close to the 1.4 in terms of sharpness and bokeh when wide open.</p><p>Someday, I hope to get the 85 f/1.4.&nbsp; The one Jeremy has is a freakishly awesome lens, that I would like to borrow frequently when we&#039;re in AZ.&nbsp; Get that, the 200 micro, and a replacement Tokina 11-16 and I&#039;ll be set.&nbsp; Just need about $2500 first.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/forum/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Van]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-06-10T00:02:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: VA salamanders and some useless junk]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the post and pics.&nbsp; Yeah, finding a few of your targets would have been nice...but, honestly, sometimes I just enjoy looking at &quot;pretty pictures&quot; regardless of subject matter.&nbsp; I&#039;ve had my eye on a couple of wide aperture Canon lenses (50mm or 85mm&#039;s) for a while just for portraiture, low light, and shots like these.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-06-09T23:15:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: VA salamanders and some useless junk]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, that was taken with a Nikon D80 and a 50mm f/1.4 at f/2.</p><p>Van</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Van]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-06-09T18:50:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Great pictures. I especially like the picture of the gull. What camera and lens did you use for that one?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Adam]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-06-09T17:08:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[VA salamanders and some useless junk]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In May, my cousin got married to his longtime girlfriend in Rhode Island.&nbsp; I used that as an excuse to go home to VA for a week, before driving up with my folks.&nbsp; I really got into herping after I had left to go to school in Florida in 2000, and so had never spent much time herping the area I grew up in.&nbsp; I&#039;ve seen a few timbers and ratsnakes, but only after I left had I learned about the remnant populations of <em>Pituophis</em> that lived &lt;20 miles from my parents&#039; house, let alone the massive diversity of salamanders in the Appalachians.&nbsp; So, I left with high hopes, with goals being- <em>Pituophis</em>, <em>L. triangulum</em>, <em>Agkistrodon</em>, and Caudata, none or few of which I&#039;d ever seen in VA.&nbsp; I especially hoped that early May would be right around late emergence/den dispersal, and that the snakes would still be relatively concentrated.</p><p>Unfortunately, the weather forecast wasn&#039;t good.&nbsp; The week before I arrived temps had soared into record-highs in the 90s, and, by the time I had arrived, had plummeted to near-record lows in the 30s.&nbsp; The combination of ultra-high temps followed by unseasonably cool weather really put a damper on reptile activity, and I saw only 1 <em>Nerodia sipedon</em>, 1 <em>Diadophis punctatus</em>, and a couple of <em>Sceloporus undulatus</em>.</p><p>Still, you can&#039;t find anything if you don&#039;t look, so I hit some beautiful habitat early and heavily for the short time I was able:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396777/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396777/original.jpg" /></span><br />Southwest-facing talus slope with the Shenandoah Valley in the background and Elliot Knob (highest peak in Augusta County, one of the highest in VA) in the right-hand distance.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396794/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396794/original.jpg" /></span><br />Southeast-facing talus slope that peaks 800 feet above the valley floor.&nbsp; I spent about 5 hours searching that slope with nothing but wolf spiders to show for it.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396793/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396793/original.jpg" /></span><br />View from the top.&nbsp; The rocks &quot;bow out&quot; somewhat, so I was very conscious of my footing in an attempt to avoid creating any kind of rockslide.&nbsp; I probably needn&#039;t have worried, as most of the boulders were motorcycle or car-sized.&nbsp; Note the Blue Ridge Parkway in the distance.&nbsp; The prior photo was taken from the dam on the lake below.</p><p>In between talus slopes, I also did luck into some exceptionally sandy ridgeline habitat that looked perfect for any remnant <em>Pituophis</em> that might be around.&nbsp; Unfortunately, the oak and rhododendron scrub made walking through the stuff nigh-impossible- it reminded me of a non-prickly version of south Texas arid thornscrub.&nbsp; Didn&#039;t find a thing.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396790/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396790/original.jpg" /></span><br />A rare reptile, yearling <em>Sceloporus</em></p><p>With the cold front came a soaking rain that gave me the opportunity to check out a 100 (or so)- acre woodlot that juts against my parents&#039; farm.&nbsp; There&#039;s a spring to the south that runs into our property where I&#039;d found <em>Pseudotriton ruber</em> as a kid (kept one for ~7 years), but I hadn&#039;t been in the woods in nearly 20 years.&nbsp; After crossing some fields, I found myself in one of the prettiest remnant forests I&#039;ve ever seen, especially in the rain.&nbsp; Most of the forest was double- or even triple-canopied, with large maples, oaks, and hickory forming the dominant trees, and probably 2 dozen species of shrubs and soft broadleaf understory making the lower levels.&nbsp; Its clear that 100+ years free of logging had done this place wonders.&nbsp; Deer were everywhere, and I spooked easily a half-dozen each hour.&nbsp; Under the logs of the forest, I found about 20 <em>Plethodon cinereus</em>.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396788/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396788/original.jpg" /></span></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396789/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396789/original.jpg" /></span></p><p>After the rain, I decided to look for some of the other Caudates I hadn&#039;t seen before, and I wasn&#039;t at all disappointed:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396791/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396791/original.jpg" /></span></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396792/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396792/original.jpg" /></span><br />2 of about 30 <em>Desmognathus monticola</em></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396782/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396782/original.jpg" /></span></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396783/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396783/original.jpg" /></span><br />a beautiful <em>Eurycea longicauda</em></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396773/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396773/original.jpg" /></span></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396774/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396774/original.jpg" /></span><br />2 contrasting <em>Plethodon sherando</em>, the newly-described Big Levels Salamander- my #1 sallie goal</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396796/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396796/original.jpg" /></span><br />larval <em>Gyrinophilus porphyriticus</em>- felt bad about not having a wet container to lessen the impact on its gills.&nbsp; Searched hard for an adult, but no luck.</p><p>Also saw one of the 2-lined <em>Eurycea</em>.&nbsp; Both <em>bislineata</em> and <em>cirrigera</em> occur in the area, so no idea which it was.</p><p>After that, it was time for the drive north, and no more herping.&nbsp; I did have a couple of interesting things to share, some of which were personal pilgrimages:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396797/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396797/original.jpg" /></span><br />Walter Camp Field- one of the great shrines of college football.&nbsp; Each of the 4 sides of the entry has plaques that commemorate the contributions made by all of the schools of the day to the sport and tradition of college football- most of the current BCS schools (and some lesser-known, such as VMI, Lafayette College, etc.) are listed.&nbsp; Darren McFadden won the Walter Camp award in &#039;06 and &#039;07, so as a Hog fan it was even cooler to see.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396784/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396784/original.jpg" /></span><br />Louis&#039; Lunch, supposedly the first place in the US to serve hamburgers, New Haven, CT.&nbsp; Any burger aficionado MUST check it out.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396785/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396785/original.jpg" /></span><br />Their trademark vertical burners.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396786/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396786/original.jpg" /></span><br />The epitome of simple, but man they were good.&nbsp; LL grind their own meat, so many burgers are RARE and bloody.&nbsp; mmmmmmmmmm good</p><p>On to Newport, RI, where my cousin got married:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396787/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396787/original.jpg" /></span><br />Family Guy fans must appreciate!</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396781/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396781/original.jpg" /></span><br />Methinks think I&#039;m more used to seeing the other side of this wall....</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396776/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396776/original.jpg" /></span><br />Catch of the day?&nbsp; Robinfish and herring...... yuck</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396779/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396779/original.jpg" /></span><br />free handouts?</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396772/original.jpg" alt="http://www.pbase.com/serpentchaser82/image/125396772/original.jpg" /></span><br />A pre-USA house- We are merely travelers through history.&nbsp; This, this IS history.</p><p>Thanks for looking, and special thanks to Mike Pingleton and Kenny Wray for tips on herping parts of the Appalachians.</p><p>Van</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Van]]></name>
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