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Topic: WDB land

A few of us got together to look for the great WDB. With the success of Jeremy, we had high hopes. The weather quickly took care of all that. The plan was Saturday, well that went to some salamandering instead. Little luck was had on that trip and I took no pics of the one Rich Mountain Salamander found, and the other more common things (slimmy, redback, many-ribbd, ringnecks, and five-lines).

Well it did finally get a little warm on Sunday. So off we go.

On the way out we found a large DOR Prairie King. Thoughts of WDBs were dancing in our heads with this.

We stopped at a tin site and flipped a couple of ringnecks, five-lines, rough earths, and flatheads. No pictures.

Next we hit the location that Jeremy found the [size=18one[/size. These are some habitat shots:

http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/gallery/14970-2/Hab.jpg

A few of us came down this rough slope:

From middle:

http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/gallery/14976-2/Slide1.jpg

From bottom:

http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/gallery/14982-2/Slide2.jpg

Little lucks was had. Jeremy saw a little Copperhead, and he found this Speckled King:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/ksuglennj/SpeckKing.jpg

Some more of the same fossorial snakes were found under tin.

Off to another spot were nothing of signifcance was foud (except I lost my cell out in the woods). We did come accross this awsome Hognose crossing the road:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/ksuglennj/Hog.jpg

To end this little post, a few snakes were brought by for a look.

This is yet another picture of Jeremy's WDB. Never too many big_smile .

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/ksuglennj/WDB.jpg

MissLindsay brought up her recent find in Louisiana. It was this gem of a Coral Snake. Again never too many pictures of this snake. I hope to see many more pictures from those of you with the better cameras.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/ksuglennj/Coral.jpg

Hope you all enjoyed.

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why is that dimond back considered a westen and not an eastern? ive always thought if you came across one that dark in color it would be an eastern dimond back,what exactly would the difference be?

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One: note the diamonds. They are not that perfect in a WDB when compared to an EDB.
Two: note the coon tail in the WDB. There are stripes on an EDB, but not as bold black and white.
Three: the color is different. Hard to put into words, but see this link of a very nice EDB picture:
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/collect … attler.jpg
Also, I am sure that there are many different scale counts and other traints that differ in the two. I would look at an Peterson's Eastern Field Guide for these.

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Nice pics of the hognose.
In my opinion, that made my trip worth while. I had never seen a flat-head much less a hognose.
I also called your cell in an attempt to stay awake. At least you didn't fall down the mountain.

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*ahem* WHY was I not invited?!?! I'm heartbroken!
There should be some sort of state law, no herping for WDBs unless I'm present big_smile
(hey, I can dream)
Some great looking animals. 
Love the Coral snake!
The Kingsnake appears to be MUCH friendlier than the one I found..  :shocked:

I'm about to have an abruptly.

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Most of my Coral Snake pics got bumped by newer pictures off the homepage, but you can see them on the gallery updates page:

http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/gallery/updates

A couple of the better ones:
http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/gallery/15098-2/2C3V6651.jpg http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/gallery/15128-2/2C3V6680.jpg

This species is very freakish in its defensive behaviors when compared to other snakes...and, I might add, quite uncooperative with the camera!  HA!

Their beauty is hardly paralleled.  It's a beauty that *begs* to be touched.  Kind of hard to explain, but the whole time we had it out to look at it, this little voice in my head was inviting me to touch it.  Of course, I know better than to do what that little voice says, but the temptation is there all the same.  I can easily see why a small child might be inclined to pick one up to play with it.

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hypnotic effects in their color patterns perhaps?? Veddy Intadestink... I know I was leary to touch even the dead, dried, fossilized one at Logoly! (but I did- just not its hollow head)

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I know exactly what you mean, Kory.  Did this one ever head-mimic with its tail?  Its a trip.

Van

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I really want to catch a coral snake (Texas, eastern, doesn't matter). They are beautiful snakes. I get hypnotized just by the pictures!

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Van wrote:

Did this one ever head-mimic with its tail?

 

Maybe...?

http://www.herpsofarkansas.com/gallery/15153-2/2C3V6708.jpg

It coiled and raised its tail like this briefly, but several times (even if not raised) it jerked its tail in strike-like fashion, too.  I assume those kinds of things are what you are talking about.  Also, it seemed much more inclined to tuck its head than to bite.  In fact, it made no legitimate strikes at all as far as I noticed.

They are definitely hypnotizing!

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Yep, thats their standard head-mimic MO.

Cool that you got that picture of it.

Van

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Kory-

I do not remember it doing this durring our first go around. Was this display durring your second go around, while I was sneeking a shower?

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ksuglennj wrote:

Kory-

I do not remember it doing this durring our first go around. Was this display durring your second go around, while I was sneeking a shower?

Yes, it was.  It didn't last long; the reason I was only able to get a shot or two (and a bit out of focus at that).

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