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Topic: Nerodia in NE AR

I went out to Mallard Lake last night in Mississippi Co. to try to catch some diamondback watersnakes for my research. They were there of course, but I also found a broadbanded watersnake in the lake. I have found them before around the lake, but this was the first time I had ever found a species other than rhombifer in the lake (Coincidentally, it was the second broadbanded to bite me that day). I also caught two musk turtles...with snake tongs. Heard a ton of cricket frogs, some fowler's toads, some green frogs, saw a bullfrog. But the highlight of the trip for me was catching my first Mississippi Green Watersnake. They used to be very common in Mallard Lake until 1988, when a flood forced them onto the road and people slaughtered them. Again, this is the first time I have found a species other than rhombifer actually in the lake and there were two different new species in one night.

I'll try to get some pics of the green watersnake in the galleries soon since they are lacking. However, I'm not that technologically advanced so I may have to wait until Josh gets back on campus to show me how to do that!

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Cool, you got one of the species we were looking for down south and you did not have to drive as far.  smile

I used to live in Blytheville for 2.5 miserable years. Thank goodness I got out. The only good thing about living in that city was getting out of town and into nature. We used to hook crawfish and fish at Mallard Lake. I remember getting board and looking around the neighboring areas. I caught one juvie Nerodia. I will not lie, at the time I thought it was a Cottonmouth. Young dumb and my parents did not know much about snakes. Looking back I thought it was a sipedon, because it was very dark and had no pattern. It also struck at me, and it just missed. This was clear back in 1986-1988, I was between 10-12. Do you think it was one of the other Nerodia species that you have seen, or are there sips there?

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A lot has changed since 1986-88. Currently, the only only watersnakes I have found in and around the Lake are diamondbacks, broadbands, and green. I haven't found sipedon.

Back in the 80's though, there were a lot of graham's crayfish snakes. My undergrad advisor (Brian Butterfield) worked with Trauth back then and he and Walter Meshaka used to catch crayfish snakes by jumping into the water and trying to see how many they could grab off of limbs before hitting the water. The record was five!

In 1988 there was that flood and around 200-250 snakes of several species were killed on the levee. Then a few years later, they drained the lake, bulldozed it somewhat, added rip-rap, and I think those two events did the crayfish snake in at Mallard lake. I haven't seen one yet and this was the first MS green watersnake I've seen.

With all that has changed since then, I wouldn't want to guess at what snake it could have been.

It's never worth it to communicate with people. --Jacob

The only difference between the government and the mafia is that the government calls its bill collector the “IRS” and the mafia calls its bill collector “Big Louie.” 

NOBAMA:  Keep the change.

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Okay, I managed to add some photos to the gallery...

It's never worth it to communicate with people. --Jacob

The only difference between the government and the mafia is that the government calls its bill collector the “IRS” and the mafia calls its bill collector “Big Louie.” 

NOBAMA:  Keep the change.

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mountainman wrote:

ged to add some photos to the gallery...

Very nice!!!   cool  A species that is definitely on my need-to-find list!

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