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Topic: Feedback Request on Recent Changes

So, rather than finishing up our AHS spring field trip report (sheesh! ...but hey, I'm still waiting on Glenn's species list anyway  big_smile), I've been working with some diligence to eat through a long to-do list for the website...and I think I've made some good progress the last few days.

Keeping in mind much of this is still a work in progress, I'm ready for a little bit of feedback (good or bad) on a few specific things:

1) GALLERY - The image gallery, as it once was, is no more.  95% of the pictures have found new homes somewhere on the site and I'm even looking twice for homes for the remaining 5%.  What I like better is that the content (i.e. writing) and pictures now fit together better and this opens up, I think, some possibilities going forward.  Please browse around to see if the structure makes sense to you and what you like or don't like about how anything works with the pictures.

2) HOMEPAGE - I'm made several very obvious changes to the homepage (and even header menu)...  Most of these changes have been geared toward helping stupid visitors.  Well, no, not stupid, but people who don't know what a "herp" is and who want to find out if they killed a good snake er a bad snake (and maybe they'll just be drawn in a little bit along the way and get edu-mi-cated).  That "the path of looking" doesn't so readily funnel people straight to the forum is pretty much by design...although I don't want getting here to be overly obscured either.  Hey, it's a big website with plenty of room yet to grow, so let's flex our collective muscles in areas outside of the one that starts with the letter "F" and see what we can do.  cool

2A) The side menu has been restructured.  I thought the previous icons were a little too cartoonish, so those went away.  I think the new visuals for the herp groups might still be a little too visually overwhelming, so I may continue to play around to tone those down.

2B) There is now an honest-to-goodness "introduction to herps" smack-dab at the beginning.  I never thought that space was used quite right and I think this is better.  "Everything" can't all be front-and-center, ya' know.  The "mission statement" stuff has been moved down and the AHS information moved completely off to its own page...which, I wonder, may spark some opinions?  I need people to proof-read the introductory stuff.  I still think it needs "dumbed down" in terminology just a hair (but should be better after some additions to the glossary).  It should draw people in and invite them to explore.  Is it too wordy/long?  Let's make it better.

3) PROFILES - People either already have--or CAN HAVE--a profile.  I'm not trying to play favorites with the ones I've made so far; mostly it has to do with whatever pictures of people I have or what's on my mind at a particular moment in time when I'm able to plug another one in.  But hey, I'm not stopping anyone from setting up their own (and I've tried to make it pretty easy to do so by following others as a template...or just ask, and I'll set one up for you).  This is YOUR own personal space to use (pretty much) as you see fit.  Please add to your own profile and use it.  If you have pictures of people, dump them into the appropriate profiles.  No need to ask the person's permission, of course.  tongue  (...unless it's my own profile, then ask.  big_smile)  Quite a lot of what people currently post on the forum might work better on their profile page.  I'm thinking mainly of field trip reports and species lists...that someone might want to keep a more permanent log for.  I'll share some thoughts and instructions at a later time about how to make the most of it, but you can start improving your profile as of...now!

4) SPECIES ACCOUNTS - Blah, blah, blah...same request, different day.  Please help me get drafts for some of these species accounts written (alligator, turtles, frogs, and salamanders).  Thank you, steelflint, for your recent contributions.

5) PLAYING A PART - For starters I need people to go through parts of the site they hold something of a stake in (I'm thinking of AHS events and trips away mainly) and "make it better".  What I mean is to plug in details.  If you attended one of the trips away, please go back and minimally add in a who, what, when, and where.  Even better is to copy and paste reports/stories and species lists from matching forum posts...pretty easy actually.  In the events area, there are a few "unofficial reports" that have some "mystery characters" that got in there somewhere along the line...someone else can take care of little improvements like these.

6) USE IT OR LOSE IT - Well, ok, that's probably a little harsh, but basically if an area doesn't develop on the website to some stage of completion, it is going away.  A past victim was that "herping best practices" document people asked for, then I set up...then it hardly got touched (because I didn't have the time to write it)...and, yep, it went away!  The current danger is to the CAHS page.  If people want it, they better do something with it soon because it has said "More coming soon..." since February 28th.  Can't someone at least put the basics on there: who to contact, some little something about membership, when and where you meet?  I think Alex Heeb never got to the turtle races document either.  If someone wants to do boring data entry for this, I think I still have the original document to dig up and email them.

I challenge each of you who visit the forum at least once a day to browse THE REST OF THE SITE for five minutes, too.  When you find a typo, something poorly worded, a missing piece that you can fill in....please take the initiative and "make it better".  (I have 10 years worth of "undo's" to play with if necessary, so you can't mess things up for long.)  And yes, this is a challenge for purely selfish reasons...I want this website to be the best stinking herping website in the world!  big_smile

PM or email if you want a job and need told more specifically what to do.

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Re: Feedback Request on Recent Changes

*salutes

How do we edit the photos?

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I've got extra time at work for the moment, so I'm going to try to flesh out the Salamander section a bit. It's difficult to find complete information on the individual species, even with internet access; but I will make the parts I do fill in as accurate as possible.
Just trying to give a little bit back for the help/answers I've gotten here over the past couple months.

"A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein

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Mystic-B wrote:

How do we edit the photos?

For now, keep clicking the image until it shows up full-size (on the standard image page, these are still downsized versions...so click one more time until you get ONLY the picture).  Right-click and save.  Edit as needed.  On the page storing the image (it'll be the page showing the "album"), click the "upload" link in the upper right-hand corner.  Make sure the image you are actually working with is listed in the attachment list.  Then upload the new version.  The old version will be retained and I can go back and either delete it for good or restore it.

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More feedback needed.  This time very specific.

On the homepage, I need people to mouseover the listed herps in the introduction.  A small image should popup.  Then, throughout the site on mouseover of glossary terms (such as "venomous", "aquatic", etc...even if the styling is a little subtle, on purpose) a popup definition should appear and link back to the glossary term.  If people could post back what they see--or especially DON'T SEE--and list their browser and operating system, that would be most helpful.  If any gibberish code shows up where it shouldn't be...the likely cause is with this and I need to debug more.  It's a little tricky with finger control, but these mouseovers even work on my iPhone...so I'm hopeful for the rest.

In any case, I probably picked the wrong thing to start tackling after school let out since it ate up the better part of a week and little else got done.  sad  For something seemly so simple, it sure was a nightmare to code....  Yes, our site used an earlier version of this script, but it was really quite badly coded (easy to break) and it stopped working completely in IE8...  So, with quite a lot of extra effort, I worked up the new version as a PmWiki extension for the benefit of others.  You know how we use this forum and other pre-built components on this site?  ...well, I try to give back a little now and again, too.  cool

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I put in some information on the CAHS page and will add more info once I obtain it, such as meeting dates and the cookout.

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OP system is Vista. Browser is Internet explorer. I moused over all the species and glossary items on the intro they seem to work. There are several words that run together however.

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BUSHMASTER W30 wrote:

There are several words that run together however.

YUP - a couple might be typos but there seems to be alot of them.

Operating system is Windows XP and browser is Internet Explorer. All the pop-up pictures and definitions worked just fine.

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WinXP Pro/FireFox 3, the mouseovers all seem to be working for me.

"A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?" -Albert Einstein

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It all works for me but I'm a repeat of the WinXP/FireFox 3.

I do have one critique. On the left-hand side of the front page were the links are for each animal group, say lizard. You have a cool picture of an example of a lizard but the picture is not the link. I see that it is the word, but I think it would be a little better if the link was the word and the picture. More area to click. Just my opinion and for sure not that big of a deal. I guess maybe I'm just a little too drawn to the racerunner picture. wink

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russianbaby007 wrote:

I put in some information on the CAHS page and will add more info once I obtain it, such as meeting dates and the cookout.

Very good.  Thank you.

everythingoutdoors wrote:
BUSHMASTER W30 wrote:

There are several words that run together however.

YUP - a couple might be typos but there seems to be alot of them.

I don't understand this.  Can someone send me a screen cap?

I don't know if it's related, but many times when I upload a new CSS file (which affects how things look), the pages don't immediately reflect the changes.  If there is a "mismatch" between the page code and style code, it can sometimes look funny for a few minutes...but shouldn't last long.

ksuglennj wrote:

...but I think it would be a little better if the link was the word and the picture. More area to click.

Yeah, honestly that had been bothering me a little, too.  I took a few minutes to improve it.

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Latest version of FireFox, Win2k Advanced Server. Looks good to me!

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After upgrading the forum, you should be able to attach files to a post now.  If smaller than 640x640px, pictures will appear...otherwise a stupid little icon and then you can click to open it.

I downsized a pic from our family fall portraits last year to test it out.  I'm the one on your right.  big_smile  I got so many ridiculously good pictures that afternoon it's...well, ridiculous.

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Well, okay...I guess you have to be logged in to view/download attachments.  I figured out how to disable the little icons...they were pretty bad looking.

I think I set it something like this for regular members:

5 attachments/post, 2MB max filesize

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