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Topic: Cottonmouth "Aggression" towards People in Boats

I do NOT believe that cottonmouths have ever launched assaults on fishermen/boaters, but many people that I talk to swear this happened

to them.  To disagree with them often means implying that these people are lying or cowardly.  But my question is: Do cottonmouths actually

get into boats, and, if so, why? (I believe I already know the answers, but I  lack the experience to give an informed opinion)

"...be as wise as serpents..."  Matthew 10:16
"...I just thought that should be brung out"  ~Goober (on 'The Andy Griffith Show')

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I agree with you on peoples perception of this poor misunderstood species. I do not know if we have some hard evidence to what happens when the appearance of aggresion towards boats.

1. I think this is the most probable and that is the smell of fish. If a snake is hungry enough it will pursue food hard. Hence the it was chasing me statement.

2. I think is still very likely. This is the fact that the snake is startled and then disoriented and just seems to heading right for the boat.

I guess these are about the chasing thing. The getting in is a little different. Again without hard evidence most of the snake that get in boats are not Cottonmouths but one of the many species of water snakes. Cottonmouths do rest on branches but far less when compared to other water snakes. So a boat bumps a branch or whatever and scares a snake. Instead of dropping into water like usual, the snake drops into the boat that is in the way.

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This subject makes me question some of my own experiences with cottonmouths.  It also brings up some questions.
I know most wild animals (reptiles included) can be territorial to certain extents. How far, if any, would a cottonmouth go to enforce its' territory? And would a female with young near by be more aggressive?
I have had a cottonmouth swim what seemed to be well out of its way to investigate me while wading around at the river. It did go into an aggressive/defensive mode when it got close. I am on the fence about its intentions. Was it being territorial, curious or was it just coincidental that it swam right to me? Either way, it was enough of a display to get me to steer clear of it and move on my way.

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Nocturnal1 wrote:

I know most wild animals (reptiles included) can be territorial to certain extents. How far, if any, would a cottonmouth go to enforce its' territory? And would a female with young near by be more aggressive?

This would not be the case. Cottonmouths give very little parental care. Also the females usually do not drop the babies close to water. They will even go onto glades and other places where the temps are right.

Nocturnal1 wrote:

I have had a cottonmouth swim what seemed to be well out of its way to investigate me while wading around at the river. It did go into an aggressive/defensive mode when it got close. I am on the fence about its intentions. Was it being territorial, curious or was it just coincidental that it swam right to me? Either way, it was enough of a display to get me to steer clear of it and move on my way.

Keep in mind that their vision is not always their primary way of perceiving their surroundings. The individual could of had certain things (food, mating, and more) on its mind and your location was just in the path. When it close enough, it sensed you and became alarmed and took up the usual defensive posture.

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Think about it this way- while snakes are decent swimmers, their metabolism and muscles aren't suited for the constant elevated effort that swimming usually requires.  They normally slip into anaerobic metabolism when making that kind of effort, build up substantial lactic acid in their muscle tissue, and then rest periodically to breathe off the 'burn'.

I've had many snakes swim up to my person or boat while fishing, rest against me or the hull (I just watch them) for a minute, and then continue swimming on (though I've NEVER done that with a cottonmouth, lol).

I think that 99% of these cases are instances when a snake is tired of swimming, sees something big enough to rest against for a minute, and swims towards it.

Van

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I agree with Van. Since most snakes have relatively poor eyesight, they may see a boat, or anything else in the water, as a potential resting site.

I have also noticed through my own experiences that, although usually shy, cottonmouth are also territorial and curious about their surroundings like most wild animals. When something is in their territory, they do want to investigate it. I have been in the water with cottonmouth, sometimes in shallow water when I stand up and they go right through my legs with absolutely no intention on biting me. Especially when they are busy searching for food (this is usually at night).

Richard Butler
www.okherp.com

"A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, beauty, and stability of the biotic community.  It is wrong when it tends otherwise" - Aldo Leopold, 1949

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Cottonmouths quite oftencome out into the water to check for potential prey. Weather I'm in a boat or in the water, the vibrations alarm the snake and it heads toward the source to see if potential prey caused them. After checking me out the snakes usually either turn back or cross the water in front of me or behind me but they don't come up to bite me.

I actually read this in a book today: A study was done out on the Savannah river (I believe) in east Georgia to test the aggresiveness of cottonmouths. 50 snakes were tested in the experiment. First the scientists stepped on the snakes with snake proof boots and only 5% of the snakes bit the boot that stepped on it. The rest of the snakes displayed their cotton mouths, vibrated their tail, and excreted a foul musk to scare the scientists away. After being stepped on, the scientists used a fake arm to pick up the already ticked off snakes and only 30% of them turned around and bit the arm. The others tried to slither away and ecape the grasp of the fake hand. Apparently the snakes won't waste venom if they absolutely don't have to and don't seem to be as aggresive as everybody says.

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I believe you are referring to Defensive Behavior of Cottonmouths (Agkistrodon piscivorus) toward Humans by Whit Gibbons and Michael Dorcas

Really interesting article. They first stood next to the Cottonmouths (in the wild). Then they stepped on them. Then then picked them up with the fake hand. Only 13 of the 36 snakes that were grabbed actually bit the fake hand.

If you want to look it up it is in Copeia, Vol. 2002, No. 1 (Feb. 8, 2002), pp. 195-198.

Josh Engelbert
Copan, OK

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I stepped on a Cottonmouth 0ct. 25th a few years back......
I was leaving the River and being that late in the year,I had let my guard down as far as keeping an eye out..............was in a really bad mood from something that happened at the River.
Just was not thinking anything,and started walking up some Limestone bedrock that was exposed...........
UH-OH rubber-hose feel under my feet.........................I seen it was a Cottonmouth,I screamed-it just came out-lol.........jumped straight up off it
the Snake swung its head back toward my leg,with its mouth open but did not bite me......I had stepped right in the middle of a full grown Cottonmouth........
My Dad and Granddad years ago had a Cottonmouth try to get in their boat,in the middle of the Lake....
so I guess it had some how got out really deep and got tired and wanted out of the water....

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OkieHerper wrote:

I believe you are referring to Defensive Behavior of Cottonmouths (Agkistrodon piscivorus) toward Humans by Whit Gibbons and Michael Dorcas

Really interesting article. They first stood next to the Cottonmouths (in the wild). Then they stepped on them. Then then picked them up with the fake hand. Only 13 of the 36 snakes that were grabbed actually bit the fake hand.

If you want to look it up it is in Copeia, Vol. 2002, No. 1 (Feb. 8, 2002), pp. 195-198.

that study was also on tv . .