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Topic: Perkins Papers

I'm a little reluctant to post this for general consumption, but at this point I am simply gauging availability and interest...

So, as a bit of background, Marlin Perkins (of Wild Kingdom fame) took at least 2 herp collecting trips to Arkansas in the late 1920's to mid 1930's during his tenure at the St. Louis Zoo.  Among the species he collected were Western Diamond-backed Rattlesnakes (in the double digits!) and at least 8 Coralsnakes.  Most of these were deposited in scientific museums, but I believe a few of the animals went on display at the zoo.  A couple of scientific papers, which I have not read yet myself, were published as to at least one of the earlier collecting trips, but these obviously omit some important information.  For example, the papers don't even mention the Coralsnakes as these were not accounted for in the 2004 AR herp book, but I know about them now based on recent museum queries.

Now to the plans...

I am tentatively planning to travel to St. Louis for a couple of days during my winter break--December 17 to January 1--to pore over the Perkins papers in regard to his herpetological work in Arkansas.  The State Historical Society of Missouri Research Center at the University of St. Louis houses the records and is only open on weekdays.  I'd like to allow two days for the work in case one isn't enough.  By the listing of materials, there could be a lot to sort through.

http://www.umsl.edu/~whmc/

http://www.umsl.edu/~whmc/guides/whm0516.htm

http://www.umsl.edu/~whmc/guides/whm0721.htm

That's about how I know it at this point.  I just tracked down the existence and availability of these documents right at the end of summer break, and it was too late to follow through before school started back.  I have to tell you, I practically idolized Marlin Perkins growing up and have watched every episode of Wild Kingdom at least 4 times...probably double that if they showed any snakes!  HA!  Throw in W. Diamond-backs and Coralsnakes and...well, I've been almost giddy in anticipation of this trip already.  It really is going to feel like a little kid waiting for their best Christmas ever to come!

I'm sharing because I know at least some on this forum have similar feelings toward Perkins, Diamond-backs, and Corals.  So, if sitting in a dull library poring over documents for 1 or 2 eight-hour winter days is for you, then I'm willing to share in this opportunity...if the finer details can be worked out.  I think, unfortunately, a reasonable number of participants is probably going to have to be limited to no more than four.
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Possibly for next herping season...  Retrace Perkin's steps???  How fun would that be?   big_smile

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I grew up watching that show.  I was along for the ride at "Western Diamondbacks" lol
If i can manage to escape, I'd be glad to sift through the papers.   If I'm not able to go to STL, well I'm DEFINITELY in for retracing the steps, just call me "Jim".

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I loved Perkins also. I think I remember him and Jim catching a anaconda one time. That was the good old days!!!!! I wonder what happend to Jim? I know he continued doing Wild Kingdom for awhile.

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"We'll wait here while Jim....."  and "Watch as my assitant, Jim approaches the amorous male rhino"  or something to that affect.. Jim was always the one in the muck..price you pay when you are the underdog.  LOL  Last I recall, Jim Fowler was still involved in conservation, I don't even know if he is still alive these days?

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amercnwmn wrote:

Last I recall, Jim Fowler was still involved in conservation, I don't even know if he is still alive these days?

Apparently he is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fowler

http://www.wildkingdom.com/nostalgia/fowler_bio.html

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lol.. Cool!

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Good to know he's still kickin!!!!

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Sounds like a good opportunity for sure! Right now, it's looking like my winter is all sorts of booked up already and sadly, I don't think any of it will be herp related  sad

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http://youtu.be/T8s_g2v9M1g  One of the anaconda captures.   I loved the sound of Marlin Perkins' voice.  Before the commercial break he'd say something like, "The lion cub depends on his parents when he is unable to take care of himself.  If you become unable to care for yourself, you can depend on Mutual of Omaha."

"...be as wise as serpents..."  Matthew 10:16
"...I just thought that should be brung out"  ~Goober (on 'The Andy Griffith Show')

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Poor Jim..lol

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That's one way to catch em. The video I remember was a different one. The anaconda was in a tree and dropped down on their heads and tipped the boat over if I remember right. It was a LONG time ago!!!!!!

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Sounds fun. On your way, maybe take a side trip to Carthage and get a picture by his statue???  smile

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NatureLady wrote:

Sounds fun. On your way, maybe take a side trip to Carthage and get a picture by his statue???  smile

Good idea.  I wouldn't have thought of that.

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Are you still planing to go? If so, perhaps you could look something up for me while you're there??????
You probably saw the post I made regarding an article I'm looking for: Veneration Of Vipers By William G. Conway
I'm not sure what year it was written but, I'm betting it's there at umsl.  When you follow this link: http://www.umsl.edu/~whmc/guides/whm0539.htm   Box #2, Folder #57 contains this... Conway, William G. Magazine articles and correspondence, 1957-1969

I contacted UMSL and got the following reply:

Eric,



First you would need to supply the collection number. It’s the “sl###” in the upper left corner of the online inventory. Then there would be a $20 use fee to determine the size of the file and then .25 per copy for photocopies. The use fee gives you ten free copies. Some postage fees would also accrue. If the collection is stored off site in can take from 3 to 5 days to have it brought to the office here. You could forego the use and postage fees if you could come in, locate the file and make the copies yourself.



Best,



Kenn Thomas

Manuscript Specialist

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I guess that's a no

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I am in the process of establishing contacts and scheduling on the St. Louis side of things.  The specific dates are yet to be determined, but will be within these windows:

Dec 18 PM - Potential travel day.

Dec 19-22

Dec 26 - Potential travel day.

Dec 27-29

The itinerary should look something like this:

Day 1 PM: Travel
Day 2 AM-PM: Library
Day 3 AM: Zoo
Day 3 PM: Library (if necessary)
Day 3 LATE: Travel

Drive time from Bella Vista to St. Louis is just over 5 hours.

If interested in participating, please email me.  Any additional plans will be made via email.  Thanks!

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